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> Love Hate Relationship With Linux, Problems with getting Linux to function
post Dec 3 2005, 11:11 AM
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Whats this Lie-nix Thing?

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All started well with Linux in the beginning. I played with Fedora a bit then SuSE and ended up installing SuSE 9.3. The feeling of being free from Mircosoft and Windows was great. I would now have great stability and good security.

Firefox proved to be a very good browser (although I did not need Linux for that) and Thunderbird a worthy email client. Open Office was OK for me but there are those in my family who want to stay with MS Office and IE and I could not run Quicken on Linux. So I installed CrossOffice (CX) a wine application that would give me the Windows plugins needed to run some Windows apps.

That was the beginning of the slide downhill for Linux. Quicken actually works about 85 to 90% OK and I can live with it. IE is not really OK – It works but freezes up a lot and printing is very slow when it works at all. To open WORD takes an unbelievable 5 minutes but seems OK after that (I suppose I could just leave it open). I tried making mailing labels and the printing would not line up correctly but when it was done on a Windows system it worked fine – so there are some things that CX does not do really well.

The real kicker was CX did not like the way my CDROM was configured and asked to “fix” it. I let it and I am paying BIG TIME !

I can no longer mount my CDROM or CDRECORDER ! This is where I am starting to hate Linux. I have spent hours trying to understand the mount command and more hours trying to learn about ect/fstab
and how to configure CD devices (the Floppy is fine as is the hard disk) and then how to edit (I am learning vi so I guess that is a good thing).

But I can not mount my CD devices. Now I discover it is because the system has no idea that I have CD devices. In MY COMPUTER they are missing and in YaST they are not “detected.” I am beginning my THIRD week trying to get my CD devices back. What is really bad is they automounted just fine in the beginning – almost as good as – I hate to say it – Windows.

In the mean time –during the Linux honeymoon – I installed SuSE 9.3 on our second PC. Great ! an all Linux home network. Well not quite.

I have been trying off and on for the last month (God only knows how many hours) to network my printer so both PCs can use it. But CUPS just plain sucks and I can not get it to work. And I am starting to wonder if all this time and effort is worth it after all - at least with the hated Windows I can network my printer and my scanner. I can not get Linux to recognize my scanner but I think that is just a driver problem and have not had the 30 or 40 hours I guess it will take to get started to figured it out.

Yet I pop in my jumpdrive and it works wonderfully and it makes me not want to give up on Linux quite yet but I am really close.

Any sugesstions or help would be greatly appriciated
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post Dec 5 2005, 05:01 PM
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Its GNU/

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I like you're three things to keep in mind D, those are good.

I haven't run Mandriva since it was Mandrake. I liked it then, I found I out grew it because I was digging into the back end and Mandrake didn't like that. Sometime here I am gonna install a current version of Mandriva and see what its like.

I think you're first point is the most relevant. Some people assume that because they are Windows gurus they are gonna be able to waltz through windows. Then they ask questions like "where are the .exe files?" and "how do I edit the registry" and you want to smack them accross the mouth.

I gather the emphisis on the IS a good desktop where targeted at me. Everything I have tried recently doesn't cut it as an easy to use, quick to set up, and easy for the average user to get up to speed on. But now that I think about it, Windows isn't really easy for the average user to get up to speed on either. So I guess it comes down ease of install, set up, and functionality.

Obviuosly any of the power distros are out. Gentoo, Debian, even like Slackware and SuSE to some extent. But lets leave SuSE in play for a min.

So the big players then are Fedora, Ubuntu, SuSE and Mandriva.

Fedora trips right out of the gate because its an American distro so it has lots of copywrite and IP problems with things like mp3s and such. So its kind of a pain in the ass to get it working right.

Ubuntu as previously discussed .... well sucks.

SuSE I haven't used much but from what I understand it sets up pretty easy, gets rolling, but has some problems with device support and such.

Mandriva I am out of touch with, so I will take you're word on it and prounouce it the winner.

Long story short, all of the linux is a newbie to the home user market. Its growing and eventually it might get itself under control pretty well, but it isn't there yet. I don't recomend people to come over to linux unless they are looking to learn alot and have some troubles. Thats what I have to say.

--Jim Lester

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